(Last updated 11 March 2022)
John Williams (1811-1888) has been difficult to research because he traveled
far from his birthplace. His birthplace was either Tennessee or Kentucky
or possibly even both because of the changing of the border between Tennessee
and Kentucky. See "Walker
Line". Neither John's possible parents or possible siblings have
been identified despite the multiple erroneous leads repeated on Ancestry.
On the 1880 Federal Census (Texas, Collin county) the question of parent's birthplace
was asked
and John Williams' father was listed as being from Kentucky and his mother from
Tennessee but it's not know if he gave that information himself or even if his
own knowledge remembered many years after the fact would be accurate. His own birthplace varies between Kentucky and Tennessee on several census records. This maybe a clue though that he was born and lived in an area very close to the border of Kentucky and Tennessee.
The only known information about John Williams before
Missouri is that he appears to have come from Tennessee. This is
ascertained by the fact that the birth ages and birth places of his known
children indicate he was
residing in Tennessee from at least 1836 to 1839. A search of the 1840 Tennessee
census reveals only one John Williams household in all of Tennessee where the
ages groups of the children match the known ages of his children up to that
point. See below:
John William's Y-DNA Haplogroup is now identified as
G-M201 thanks to Y-DNA
tests of two male line descendants:
1. John Williams... Miles
Burris Williams... Henry Calvin Williams.. Leonard “Pete” Williams... Bobby
Leonard Williams (1928-1992)... son (FTDNA Kit No. 505513)
2. John Williams... Milton
King Williams... Henry Thomas Williams... William Elmer Williams... Charles
Denny Williams (1936-2017) (FTDNA Kit No. 506524)
FTDNA gives us this information about
G-M201:
Parent haplogroup: G-M201, Age: 20,000
Region: The
Caucasus region; low frequency in the Middle East and Europe. Along with I, one
of the first haplogroups in Europe.
Williams YDNA results at FTDNA
Male line descendants of John
Williams 1811-1888 are placed in group 48 (see page 3 of 37 marker results)
Click here for specific DNA segment matches.
Email me (address at
bottom of page) for an extensive Excel sheet of all Autosomal match data
including some specific segment data.
FTDNA User: | Genetic distance |
Markers | Match | Descended from... |
Charles Williams | 0 | 25 | Richard L Williams | No answer to email. |
Charles Williams | 0 | 25 | Trent Eugene Williams | No answer to email. |
Charles Williams | 1 | 37 | John Williams | "The Williams lineage that forms my ancestry is
from Georgia and at this time I am not aware of anyone who resided near in or Kentucky. " Email to Glenda M. |
Charles Williams | 1 | 37 | Paul Williams | John Williams (1811 KY - 1888 TX)... Miles B Williams... Henry Calvin Williams.. Leonard “Pete” Williams... |
Charles Williams | 2 | 37 | D Williams | Richard Williams (1780 - 1765 Cumberland Co., KY)... Miles Williams (1806)... James W Williams... Richard E Williams... |
Charles Williams | 2 | 37 | Russell Scott Williams | No answer to email. |
Charles Williams | 2 | 37 | Trent Williams | No answer to email. |
Charles Williams | 2 | 37 | Robert Wyche Williams | Miles Williams (1756-1822)... Captain J R Williams
(1795-1859).. Robert Miles Williams (1819-1886)... Walter H Williams (1858-1947)... Robert Miles Williams (1894-1969)... private This family is from Lunenburg county, Virginia. |
Male line descendants Paul Williams and Charles Williams differ on marker DYS570
PANEL 1 (1-12) | ||||||||||||
Marker | DYS393 | DYS390 | DYS19 ** | DYS391 | DYS385 | DYS426 | DYS388 | DYS439 | DYS389I | DYS392 | DYS389II *** | |
Value | 15 | 22 | 15 | 11 | 14-14 | 11 | 12 | 11 | 12 | 11 | 29 | |
PANEL 2 (13-25) | ||||||||||||
Marker | DYS458 | DYS459 | DYS455 | DYS454 | DYS447 | DYS437 | DYS448 | DYS449 | DYS464 | |||
Value | 18 | 8-9 | 11 | 11 | 24 | 16 | 20 | 28 | 12-13-13-14 | |||
PANEL 3 (26-37) | ||||||||||||
Marker | DYS460 | Y-GATA-H4 | YCAII | DYS456 | DYS607 | DYS576 | DYS570 | CDY | DYS442 | DYS438 | ||
Value | 11 | 9 | 19-20 | 13 | 14 | 18 | 18/19 | 34-36 | 12 | 10 | ||
PANEL 4 (38-47) | ||||||||||||
Marker | DYS531 | DYS578 | DYF395S1 | DYS590 | DYS537 | DYS641 | DYS472 | DYF406S1 | DYS511 | |||
Value | 12 | 8 | 15-16 | 8 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 11 | 10 | |||
PANEL 4 (48-60) | ||||||||||||
Marker | DYS425 | DYS413 | DYS557 | DYS594 | DYS436 | DYS490 | DYS534 | DYS450 | DYS444 | DYS481 | DYS520 | DYS446 |
Value | 12 | 22-22 | 14 | 10 | 12 | 12 | 16 | 8 | 13 | 22 | 22 | 15 |
PANEL 4 (61-67) | ||||||||||||
Marker | DYS617 | DYS568 | DYS487 | DYS572 | DYS640 | DYS492 | DYS565 | |||||
Value | 13 | 11 | 13 | 10 | 11 | 11 | 11 |
A descendant of Richard Williams (1780-1865 Cumberland County, KY) has been Y-DNA matched to Charles Williams and Paul Williams. D Williams differs with Charles Williams and Paul Williams on marker DYS447 and differs with Charles on marker DYS570. They are all Haplogroup G-M201. D Williams and Charles Williams would be 5th cousins. Charles Williams and Paul Williams would be 1/2 4th cousins once removed. D Williams and Charles Williams would be 5th cousins once removed.
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