Chatham co., GA query
WYNN/WINN, PYLES/PILES, BARNARD
C. C. Blankenship Mon Oct 25 17:53:38 1999
Looking for descendants of Bannister Winn and Jane Barnard. Their daughter, Charlotte Winn married Samuel R. Piles in Savannah in 1809. Charlotte and Samuel settled in Brunswick, Glynn Co., GA and Samuel served as State Senator for various years between 1813 to 1823. He also had a title of Colonel Samuel Piles. How did he receive that title? In 1823, Samuel sold over 2,000 acres along the Turtle River and moved to Alachua Co., Florida. Believe that Samuel's father, John Piles was son of first Samuel Piles whom the Georgia Colonial Government chastised for trading with the Spanish at St. Augustine in 1762 forcing him to move there. Many Indentures of that period name him as large cattle owner and Indian Trader with James Spalding. Need first Samuel's wife Sara(h)'s maiden name as well as son John's wife, Mary.
Will exchange with descendants source information.
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Some Chatham Co. place names: "Hardwick" (lost town), was located on elbow of Ogeechee River, two miles from crossroads of Ogeechee bridge across river from present Chatham County, this became Bryan Co. in 1793. Joseph Stiles and William Clark were commissioners of Hardwick - became defunct by 1814. Black Ankle (off Pine Barren Road), Morgan’s bridge, Ogeecheeton, Cherokee Hill, Monteith, Pipe maker’s canal, Bethel, Gopher Ridge, Fort Argyll, White Bluff, Isle of Hope, Ossabaw, Montgomery, Vernonburg, Skidaway, White Marsh Island, Tybee, Wassaw, Dutch Island, Oatland Island, Wilmington Island, Skidaway Island, Hutchinson Island.
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Genforum:
AN INDEX OF ANCESTORS and ROLL OF MEMBERS of the SOCIETY OF COLONIAL WARS
Published By Authority of The General Assembly, New York 1922
pages 27,28
BARNARD
Barnard, Col. John, ____--_____ , Commanded a Georgia Regiment of Rnagers in the service of the King.
Members listed under him:
Chisholm, Frank M.
Chisholm, Julian F.
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RE: JOHN BARNARD - BORN in LONDON 1729
Posted by: Sylvia Rust
Date: February 22, 2000 at 16:34:05
In Reply to: Re: JOHN BARNARD - BORN in LONDON 1729 by Angela Moore
Angela, you are correct. The John Barnard line you are referring to originated in Wilmington Island Ga. John was the son of Sir John Barnard, an English Baronet and Former Lord Mayor of London. They might be related before coming to America but the two lines from Ma. and Ga. are confusing because they have same names. Sylvia
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Re: Timothy Barnard - Re: Barnard's Path
Posted by: Christine B. Strickland
Date: November 10, 1998 in Reply to: Re: Timothy Barnard - Re: Barnard's Path by Bruce Barnard
In the "History of Macon County, Ga." by Louise F. Hays there is an entire chapter with a picture on Timpoochee Barnard, The Indian Chief.
It states Sir John Barnard was an English Baronet and at one time Lord Mayor of London and his son Col. John Barnard married Jane Bradley in London in 1743. They settled in Wilmington Island, in Chatham Co., Georgia near Savannah. Timothy was the oldest son of Col. John Barnard and Jane Bradley.
Timothy was the first white man to settle in Macon Co. Georgia and married an Euchee Indian girl. They reared a family of eleven children who were famed for their bravery and beauty of form. Among them were Pheloga (James), Timpoochee (John), Homanhidge, Mary and Yuccohpee. Timothy died in July, 1820 and left a large estate consisting of his inherited lands in England, most of Macon Co.
etc. There is a lot of information on Timothy and Timpoochee in this publication.
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Re: Timothy Barnard - Re: Barnard's Path
Posted by: Peter Haizelden
Date: March 25, 1999 at 16:52:08
In Reply to: Re: Timothy Barnard - Re: Barnard's Path by Christine B. Strickland
Sir John BARNARD, Knight (not Baronet), was Lord Mayor of London 1737. His son John BARNARD never went to or settled in U.S. He resided in Berkeley Square, London, and was a noted art collector. He died 1784 in Berkeley Square and was buried in the burial ground of St.George, Hanover Square. This story is one of many relating to the Lord Mayors in Genforum that are false and misleading.
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Re: Timothy Barnard - Re: Barnard's Path
Posted by: Trish Cobb
Date: March 18, 2000 at 19:50:14
In Reply to: Re: Timothy Barnard - Re: Barnard's Path by Christine B. Strickland
According to A Guide to the Indian Tribes of Oklahoma by Muriel Wright "Cuseene," Timpoochee's brother, relocated to what is now the Creek County area of eastern Oklahoma. His name is spelled "Cosena" and "Cosenna" in her book. Also, according the the 1832 Creek Census by Parsons-Abbott his name is spelled "Cu,se,na." My third child is named Cosena because he and two of my other children are, I believe, descended from this branch of the Barnard family. However, upon mixing with the Creeks, the Yuchi Barnards in Oklahoma apparently changed their name to Barnett. My children with this alleged ancestor indeed have their degree of Indian blood cards because their great-grandfather, William Abraham Barnett, Jr., is on the 1890 roll. Do you know of any sources other than Louise Hays' book where I might find any further information on Cosena Barnard? Also, FYI, in Sapulpa, OK is located the Yuchi Tribal Organization. They were denied sovereignty by the United States because they failed to meet the required criteria. I believe this was fairly recently. If you're interested in that I'll send you what I know.
Thank you!
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In Reply to: Re: Timothy Barnard - 1800's South Georgia by Christine B. Strickland
Re: Barnard's Path - History of Pierce County, Vol. I, by Dean Boome
Timothy Barnard (b: Nov. 3, 1745), son of John Barnard and Jane Bradley, was an Englishman -- not of Native American heritage. However, his son, Timpouchchee (also, called 'John' in Barnard Records) was half Uchee and also became the leader of the Uchee Tribe.
I am wondering if the author, Dean Boome, was aware of this fact. Seems Mr. Boome may have confused the father for the son. Was this statement quoted verbatim from Mr. Boome's book? I would be very interested to know more.
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Posted by: Christine B. Strickland
Date: September 16, 1998 at 11:45:17
In Reply to: Re: Timothy Barnard - 1800's South Georgia by Bruce Barnard
This came from Vol. I History of Pierce County by Dean Boome.
Barnard's Path Timothy Barnard, a half-blood chief of the Creek Indians, had a trail from Uchee Town in Alabama near the Chattahoochee River, north of Kennard's Path, all the way to the St. Marys River and towns in that area.
His was one of at least three Indian Paths along "Trail Ridge" between the Pierce and Ware and Brantley Counties.
Barnard's Path forked in middle Georgia, with one leg of the trail leading to St. Marys and the other north to Beard's Bluff on the Altamaha River. This portion is designated on old maps as the Beard's Bluff Trail.
Are you kin to any of the SE Ga. Barnard's? Would appreciate your input.
Christine
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Posted by: Anne R. Bruce
Date: October 15, 2000
In Reply to: Re: Timothy Barnard - Re: Barnard's Path by Lance Hall
Dear Lance,
I have some miscellaneous data on the two Barnard men in Colonial Georgia, and there are several documents which indeed establish that John Barnard was a very early settler of the young colony.
From "HISTORICAL COLLECTIONS OF GEORGIA", by White, page 32;
1. February 24, 1744; to John Barnard, a town lot ( Savannah)
2. 1 October, 1744; to John Barnard, 500 acres.
There was a land grant to Edward Barnard on 11 January, 1753, of 300 acres. There is no direct evidence in early Georgia records extant that they were brothers, although the name alone suggests that they were. Edward Barnard, by the way, was a Loyalist all through his time in Georgia, though he died before the Revolution came to a close.
Then, from "ABSTRACTS OF COLONIAL WILLS OF THE STATE OF GEORGIA, 1733-1777," by Reprint
Company, publishers, of Spartanburg, SC, indexed page 11:
JOHN BARNARD; Wilmington Island, Savannah, Gentleman; wife, Jane -all horses, cattle, slaves (except Indian slave, Harry), if she remains a widow she is to get all the profits of all the oneys that shall be raised from the stock and debts which I have in the Indian Trade, for the maintenance and the education of my TWO sons, Timothy and William, until they are 21, each son is to have 1/4th of stock and money. Other 1/2 to wife is she remains a widow. On her death, her share is to be divided between the sons.
Son, Timothy, entitled by deed of gift from Richard Kent, (to) 500 acres of land on Wilmington Island.
Son, William, a tract of land, 500 acres on Wilmington Island.
Indian Slave, Harry. His freedom after 2 years service to Jane Barnard, or upon her death, if it is sooner.
Executors: Noble Jones, Esquire , of near Savannah; Samuel Marcer, Savannah.
Witnesses; William Stephens, Newdigate Stephens and Charles Watson.
Dated 29 January, 1747
Probated 8 September, 1757
Recorded 9 September, 1757.
I have the abstract of the LW & T of Edward Barnard, should anyone need that, from this same page and source.
Best wishes,
Anne Rhea Bruce
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